Good morning, everyone, and a happy Monday to you all. As always, I&#8217;ve got a fresh mailbag ready to go after taking your questions and sending them to the crew for their take on whatever&#8217;s on your mind. This week, we&#8217;re discussing the Connor McDavid contract noise, Andrew Mangiapane&#8217;s spot in the lineup, value contracts, and more. If you’ve got a question you’d like to ask, email it to me at <a class="text-accent" href="mailto:baggedmilk@oilersnation.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">baggedmilk@oilersnation.com</a> or on Twitter at <a class="text-accent" href="https://www.twitter.com/jsbmbaggedmilk" rel="noopener noreferrer">@jsbmbaggedmilk</a>, and I’ll get to you as soon as I can.

<figure id="attachment_180108" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-180108" style="width: 847px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-180108" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers captain Connor McDavid" width="847" height="565" srcset="https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-300x200.jpg 300w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-768x512.jpg 768w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-2048x1366.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 847px) 100vw, 847px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-180108" class="wp-caption-text">Jun 14, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers center Connor McDavid (97) skates during the warmup period against the Florida Panthers in game five of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Sergei Belski-Imagn Images</figcaption></figure>
1) Oilers fan in Van asks &#8211; If Connor McDavid <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/09/05/connor-mcdavid-confident-edmonton-oilers-right-now-question-long-term-outlook/">doesn’t extend before opening night</a>, what’s your stress level 1–10 and why?
Jason Gregor:
It won’t change for me. I don’t see a team who gives him a better chance to win. I actually could see him waiting to see if the Oilers make a big move in season, and if he has to take a bit less on a short term deal he will, as his main focus is to win. He’s said many times his main focus is winning and EDM is the best team in the West, and for the next few seasons, at least right now, EDM gives him a great chancae.
Tyler Yaremchuk:
Right now, I&#8217;m at a very nice 1.5 on the panic scale. Still chilling. If this thing isn&#8217;t done by opening night? My number goes up to a 6.5. Not done by January 1? Then I&#8217;m at an 8. I&#8217;m still very confident that this will get done by game one though. The idea of it lingering is not ideal.
Liam Horrobin:
Still 0 because it doesn’t matter when he signs. He just needs to sign.
Baggedmilk:
I&#8217;m about 3/10. Not necessarily nervous yet, but definitely hoped/thought it would be done by now. It&#8217;ll crank up the longer this goes, for sure.
<figure id="attachment_178084" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-178084" style="width: 870px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-178084" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Andrew Mangipane" width="870" height="580" srcset="https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-300x200.jpg 300w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-768x512.jpg 768w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-2048x1365.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 870px) 100vw, 870px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-178084" class="wp-caption-text">Feb 25, 2025; Washington, District of Columbia, USA; Washington Capitals left wing Andrew Mangiapane (88) grabs Calgary Flames defenseman Rasmus Andersson (4) after a whistle in the third period at Capital One Arena. Mandatory Credit: Geoff Burke-Imagn Images</figcaption></figure>
2) Devon asks &#8211; Is <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/07/07/edmonton-oilers-better-with-andrew-mangiapane-over-viktor-arvidsson/">Andrew Mangiapane</a> a better fit as a Hyman-lite in <a href="https://oilersnation.com/combinations">the top six</a> or a matchup piece on L3?
Jason Gregor:
In seven seasons he’s scored more than 18 goals once. He did score 35 goals in 2022, but that looks like the outlier thus far. With the opportunity to play with McDavid or Draisaitl, he could get close to it again, but I don’t see him as a lock. With Hyman’s availability on opening night in question, Mangiapane will likely start in the top-six, but I’m not sold he’s a lock to be there all season. Matt Savoie and/or David Tomasek could push him.
Tyler Yaremchuk:
I think he&#8217;s best in the top six. I know he played a lot in the bottom six last year in Washington, but I think he has decent scoring touch and we&#8217;ve seen players with his similar playing style have lots of success with both McDavid and Draisaitl.
Liam Horrobin:
He’ll be a piece that bounces around the lineup. He was only a 4th liner for the Capitals last season, so I’m not willing to set expectations too high. My hope is that he can become Connor Brown.
Baggedmilk:
I think he&#8217;ll be in the top six for the most part, but I also think he&#8217;ll live on Ryan Nugent-Hopkins&#8217; left wing on the third line for stretches as well.
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3) Brendyn asks &#8211; After being runners-up again, what’s the one identity change (not a player add) that would move the needle most for the Oilers in 2025–26?
Jason Gregor:
Stay healthy in the Final. Hyman, Ekholm, RNH in 2025 and Draisaitl and Nurse in 2024. Health is the biggest wildcard and impossible to predict. On the ice I’d like to see them have more traffic in front of the net, and get a few more garbage goals.
Tyler Yaremchuk:
During the regular season? I&#8217;d love to see them start getting a little more cocky and just blowing out teams. Go out and win some games 6-1 and 7-2. Show the league that you don&#8217;t take your foot off the gas at all, celebrate goals hard, make it look like you&#8217;re just picking teams apart for fun.
Liam Horrobin:
The need there special teams to become elite again. The fact they made it to the SCF with a penalty kill that bad is incredible.
Baggedmilk:
Consistency&#8230; in all positions.
<figure id="attachment_175704" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-175704" style="width: 867px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-175704" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Evan Bouchard" width="867" height="578" srcset="https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-768x512.jpg 768w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-2048x1365.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 867px) 100vw, 867px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-175704" class="wp-caption-text">Apr 25, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers defensemen Evan Bouchard (2) celebrates after scoring a goal against the Los Angelos Kings in game three of the first round of the 2025 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-Imagn Images</figcaption></figure>
4) Jenna asks &#8211; The Oilers&#8217; top-four (McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard, Nurse) account for over $46M in cap space—which players do you see as essential to bridge the gap for value?
Jason Gregor:
Stuart Skinner is the starting goalie and makes $2.6m. He is the 38th highest paid goalie in the NHL this year. He has potential to be one of the best value contracts in the league due to his cap hit and his position. Vasily Podkolzin at $1m could bring unreal value. He did last year with his overall play, but this year if he produces 15 goals he’ll be great value. And if one of Ike Howard, Matt Savoie and David Tomasek can emerge and contribute 30+ points they’d be excellent value.
Tyler Yaremchuk:
The first two that come to mind are Howard and Savoie. If they can be cost effective top-six options for the next 2-3 years while we wait for the cap to go up, then life gets easier for Stan Bowman. I&#8217;d also add in players like Tomasek or Kapanen because having a good and cheap bottom-six goes a long ways when it comes to being competitve with a lot of high-paid stars.
Liam Horrobin:
Jake Walman and Trent Frederic, the two players they added at the deadline. They’ve still got plenty to give and won’t take up too much money.
Baggedmilk:
Players like Matt Savoie and Ike Howard have to be able to contribute on their entry level deals. If the big dogs are making big cash, the youngsters need to earn their keep.
<figure id="attachment_179632" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-179632" style="width: 877px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-179632" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-1024x682.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Stan Bowman Kris Knoblauch" width="877" height="584" srcset="https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-300x200.jpg 300w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-768x512.jpg 768w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-2048x1364.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 877px) 100vw, 877px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-179632" class="wp-caption-text">Jun 3, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers general manager Stan Bowman along with Oilers head coach Kris Knoblauch are seen during media day in advance of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Walter Tychnowicz-Imagn Images</figcaption></figure>
5) Allan asks &#8211; The Oilers&#8217; management team are <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/09/03/edmonton-oilers-ceo-jeff-jackson-discusses-connor-mcdavid-contract/">saying all the right things</a> about the McDavid extension, but do you buy that they&#8217;re not actually worried about it?
Jason Gregor:
I do. Jeff Jackson knows McDavid and his family better than almost anyone in the NHL. He was his agent for years and will know their thought process and trust their word. I won’t be surprised if we see McDavid sign a short term deal. I used to think four years, but I sense it could be shorter. He wants to win and shorter term gives him more flexibility, but he also might sign for a bit less if the Oilers acquire someone this season with a larger cap hit. I don’t think any scenario, other than a long term deal, is out of the question.
Tyler Yaremchuk:
I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re worried about it right now, but if it gets to October and Connor still isn&#8217;t signing then I could see them getting worried. If they&#8217;re truly giving him a &#8216;blank cheque&#8217; right now and he just isn&#8217;t interested in committing to the Oilers, then there&#8217;s legit reason to be worried.
Liam Horrobin:
100%, I don’t think it’s a case of if McDavid wants to stay but more how long.
Baggedmilk:
I don&#8217;t know. I want to believe them, but I also don&#8217;t trust anybody until the contract is signed. Way she goes.
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Edmonton Oilers forward Andrew Mangiapane

Good morning, everyone, and a happy Monday to you all. As always, I've got a fresh mailbag ready to go after taking your questions and sending them to the crew for their take on whatever's on your mind. This week, we're discussing the Connor McDavid contract noise, Andrew Mangiapane's spot in the lineup, value contracts, and more. If you’ve got a question you’d like to ask, email it to me at <a class="text-accent" href="mailto:baggedmilk@oilersnation.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">baggedmilk@oilersnation.com</a> or on Twitter at <a class="text-accent" href="https://www.twitter.com/jsbmbaggedmilk" rel="noopener noreferrer">@jsbmbaggedmilk</a>, and I’ll get to you as soon as I can.



[caption id="attachment_180108" align="aligncenter" width="847"]<img class=" wp-image-180108" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/USATSI_26456104_168383996_lowres-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers captain Connor McDavid" width="847" height="565" /> Jun 14, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers center Connor McDavid (97) skates during the warmup period against the Florida Panthers in game five of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Sergei Belski-Imagn Images[/caption]

1) Oilers fan in Van asks - If Connor McDavid <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/09/05/connor-mcdavid-confident-edmonton-oilers-right-now-question-long-term-outlook/">doesn’t extend before opening night</a>, what’s your stress level 1–10 and why?

Jason Gregor:

It won’t change for me. I don’t see a team who gives him a better chance to win. I actually could see him waiting to see if the Oilers make a big move in season, and if he has to take a bit less on a short term deal he will, as his main focus is to win. He’s said many times his main focus is winning and EDM is the best team in the West, and for the next few seasons, at least right now, EDM gives him a great chancae.

Tyler Yaremchuk:

Right now, I'm at a very nice 1.5 on the panic scale. Still chilling. If this thing isn't done by opening night? My number goes up to a 6.5. Not done by January 1? Then I'm at an 8. I'm still very confident that this will get done by game one though. The idea of it lingering is not ideal.

Liam Horrobin:

Still 0 because it doesn’t matter when he signs. He just needs to sign.

Baggedmilk:

I'm about 3/10. Not necessarily nervous yet, but definitely hoped/thought it would be done by now. It'll crank up the longer this goes, for sure.

[caption id="attachment_178084" align="aligncenter" width="870"]<img class=" wp-image-178084" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/USATSI_25512410-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Andrew Mangipane" width="870" height="580" /> Feb 25, 2025; Washington, District of Columbia, USA; Washington Capitals left wing Andrew Mangiapane (88) grabs Calgary Flames defenseman Rasmus Andersson (4) after a whistle in the third period at Capital One Arena. Mandatory Credit: Geoff Burke-Imagn Images[/caption]

2) Devon asks - Is <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/07/07/edmonton-oilers-better-with-andrew-mangiapane-over-viktor-arvidsson/">Andrew Mangiapane</a> a better fit as a Hyman-lite in <a href="https://oilersnation.com/combinations">the top six</a> or a matchup piece on L3?

Jason Gregor:

In seven seasons he’s scored more than 18 goals once. He did score 35 goals in 2022, but that looks like the outlier thus far. With the opportunity to play with McDavid or Draisaitl, he could get close to it again, but I don’t see him as a lock. With Hyman’s availability on opening night in question, Mangiapane will likely start in the top-six, but I’m not sold he’s a lock to be there all season. Matt Savoie and/or David Tomasek could push him.

Tyler Yaremchuk:

I think he's best in the top six. I know he played a lot in the bottom six last year in Washington, but I think he has decent scoring touch and we've seen players with his similar playing style have lots of success with both McDavid and Draisaitl.

Liam Horrobin:

He’ll be a piece that bounces around the lineup. He was only a 4th liner for the Capitals last season, so I’m not willing to set expectations too high. My hope is that he can become Connor Brown.

Baggedmilk:

I think he'll be in the top six for the most part, but I also think he'll live on Ryan Nugent-Hopkins' left wing on the third line for stretches as well.

[caption id="attachment_177079" align="aligncenter" width="870"]<img class=" wp-image-177079" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/USATSI_26481236_168383996_lowres-1024x683.jpg" alt="Florida Panthers" width="870" height="580" /> Jun 17, 2025; Sunrise, Florida, USA; The Florida Panthers celebrate after winning game six of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final against the Edmonton Oilers at Amerant Bank Arena. Mandatory Credit: Sam Navarro-Imagn Images[/caption]

3) Brendyn asks - After being runners-up again, what’s the one identity change (not a player add) that would move the needle most for the Oilers in 2025–26?

Jason Gregor:

Stay healthy in the Final. Hyman, Ekholm, RNH in 2025 and Draisaitl and Nurse in 2024. Health is the biggest wildcard and impossible to predict. On the ice I’d like to see them have more traffic in front of the net, and get a few more garbage goals.

Tyler Yaremchuk:

During the regular season? I'd love to see them start getting a little more cocky and just blowing out teams. Go out and win some games 6-1 and 7-2. Show the league that you don't take your foot off the gas at all, celebrate goals hard, make it look like you're just picking teams apart for fun.

Liam Horrobin:

The need there special teams to become elite again. The fact they made it to the SCF with a penalty kill that bad is incredible.

Baggedmilk:

Consistency... in all positions.

[caption id="attachment_175704" align="aligncenter" width="867"]<img class=" wp-image-175704" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/USATSI_26018227-1-1024x683.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Evan Bouchard" width="867" height="578" /> Apr 25, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers defensemen Evan Bouchard (2) celebrates after scoring a goal against the Los Angelos Kings in game three of the first round of the 2025 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-Imagn Images[/caption]

4) Jenna asks - The Oilers' top-four (McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard, Nurse) account for over $46M in cap space—which players do you see as essential to bridge the gap for value?

Jason Gregor:

Stuart Skinner is the starting goalie and makes $2.6m. He is the 38th highest paid goalie in the NHL this year. He has potential to be one of the best value contracts in the league due to his cap hit and his position. Vasily Podkolzin at $1m could bring unreal value. He did last year with his overall play, but this year if he produces 15 goals he’ll be great value. And if one of Ike Howard, Matt Savoie and David Tomasek can emerge and contribute 30+ points they’d be excellent value.

Tyler Yaremchuk:

The first two that come to mind are Howard and Savoie. If they can be cost effective top-six options for the next 2-3 years while we wait for the cap to go up, then life gets easier for Stan Bowman. I'd also add in players like Tomasek or Kapanen because having a good and cheap bottom-six goes a long ways when it comes to being competitve with a lot of high-paid stars.

Liam Horrobin:

Jake Walman and Trent Frederic, the two players they added at the deadline. They’ve still got plenty to give and won’t take up too much money.

Baggedmilk:

Players like Matt Savoie and Ike Howard have to be able to contribute on their entry level deals. If the big dogs are making big cash, the youngsters need to earn their keep.

[caption id="attachment_179632" align="aligncenter" width="877"]<img class=" wp-image-179632" src="http://publish.oilersnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/P-BOWMAN-1024x682.jpg" alt="Edmonton Oilers Stan Bowman Kris Knoblauch" width="877" height="584" /> Jun 3, 2025; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers general manager Stan Bowman along with Oilers head coach Kris Knoblauch are seen during media day in advance of the 2025 Stanley Cup Final at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Walter Tychnowicz-Imagn Images[/caption]

5) Allan asks - The Oilers' management team are <a href="https://publish.oilersnation.com/2025/09/03/edmonton-oilers-ceo-jeff-jackson-discusses-connor-mcdavid-contract/">saying all the right things</a> about the McDavid extension, but do you buy that they're not actually worried about it?

Jason Gregor:

I do. Jeff Jackson knows McDavid and his family better than almost anyone in the NHL. He was his agent for years and will know their thought process and trust their word. I won’t be surprised if we see McDavid sign a short term deal. I used to think four years, but I sense it could be shorter. He wants to win and shorter term gives him more flexibility, but he also might sign for a bit less if the Oilers acquire someone this season with a larger cap hit. I don’t think any scenario, other than a long term deal, is out of the question.

Tyler Yaremchuk:

I don't think they're worried about it right now, but if it gets to October and Connor still isn't signing then I could see them getting worried. If they're truly giving him a 'blank cheque' right now and he just isn't interested in committing to the Oilers, then there's legit reason to be worried.

Liam Horrobin:

100%, I don’t think it’s a case of if McDavid wants to stay but more how long.

Baggedmilk:

I don't know. I want to believe them, but I also don't trust anybody until the contract is signed. Way she goes.
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